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Creative's new drivers ate my porn

Letter o't'day I am a power user, damn it,

DEAREST INQ scribes, Ed and everyone,

So I decided to install the newest drivers update for my Creative X-Fi Extreme Music, that the company recently released. After a year or more waiting, new shiny drivers, imagine that. I can't say I didn't know what I am going to get into, reading the INQ articles about Creative and all.

Previous reports on beta version released a month or so ago indicated that the new XP/Vista drivers updated the soundcard's firmware and they were practically impossible to uninstall then, because the old drivers didn't work with the new firmware. Also, some users on the forums were quite unhappy with more cracking sounds, etc. But I decided to ignore all these forum whiners and go on bravely with the install. What can happen, right?

New drivers uninstalled the old ones and proceeded on with self-install. At the end of a successful instalation a restart was required. I had like 1,5 GBs free space then, because my drive was overflowing with about 50 gigs of pr0n in the c:\temp\ directory. It was a fine collection, I must say, I was supposed to sort it one day and put in on DVDs or something, but never got around to it.

After the reboot Windows XP started loading, the welcome screen appeared, desktop, tray apps started loading. Loading never finished. ZoneAlarm and Skype just didn't load, mouse cursor was all the time displayed as sandwatch. After 5 minutes I lost my patience and tried to do something:
Task Manager didn't appear, nothing worked. I had to manually hard-reset the computer. After another reboot the Windows loaded fine, sound worked, movies and mp3s played. Great. Also, as another benefit, I suddenly had 52GBs free on my 160GB drive. WHAT!!!!?????

Somehow, something erased almost all of my files in the C:\temp\
directory, along with all subdirectories. Mostly pr0n, some avi movies.

Only 2 small wmv files remained, otherwise all 50 gigs of MY DATA were gone. I tried to undelete the files with several windows apps but only succeeded undeleting about 10 percent of the whole erased amount. 45 gigs of my stuff gone forever.

Now, I know what you guys think, but I just couldn't erase the data myself, that's just not possible. I am a power user, damn it, I am able to erase spyware by hand, not using automated software. I KNOW when I erase something. And it's just impossible that I would erase 50 gigs of data, along with all subdirs from one directory and leave 2 files completely intact!! I don't have a virus either. I don't know what could have happened or why Creative did this to me. Has anything happened when I had to reset the computer because it never finished loading the desktop apps?

The drivers must have been religious zealots, I reckon. Or in porn slang: you f$ &#$ with Creative, you get f$*@#$* by Creative. Linux users learned it. Vista users learned it. Now I have learned it. Period.

You're free to publish this in entirety or in parts.

Best Regards and keep writing good stuff,

Name, e-mail address witheld

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Comments

A power user, eh?

A power user who stores his important collections in c:\temp is hardly worthy of the term "power user". Typical "power users" know how to create a c:\movies folder and know not to store important stuff in a folder named "temp"...
posted by : moshpit, 28 March 2008

c:\temp asking for trouble

c:\temp is not a clever place to strore any data...I bet the creative installer deleted its tempory install files and managed to take your pr0n with it....

posted by : Sam, 28 March 2008

WTF?

Power user my eye. What id10t keeps stuff he wants to keep in the c:\temp directory? 50Gb of stuff in your temp that you wanted to keep? The driver probably flushed the temp directory to clear up it's own temp files. Creative should have simply cleared a sub-directory that they used, but hey...some programmers are stupid. But, you sir, deserve what you got. You NEVER keep anything you cherish in ANY directory called "temp".
posted by : Smegz, 28 March 2008

Actually

the driver install script did what many of them do - unpacked itself to a temp directory, did its business and then wiped the directory when it had finished - without necessarily first checking to see if there was anything already there. I mean, theyre only *temp* files, right? Whats the worst thing that can happen?

PS: I do not work for Creafs driver development team, especially not the Windows one. Or else it would have used %TEMP% to obtain a temporary directory name instead of hardwiring C:\TEMP.
posted by : Anonymous Coward, 30 December 2007

Temp = Temporary

Storing files on "C:\temp\" , ya that's real smart! LOL!
posted by : Dude, 28 March 2008

Um...

Why would you leave anything you wanted to save in the C:\TEMP dir?

Great idea!
posted by : TunaSoda, 28 March 2008

It ate you pron?

You are a "power user" that "hand deletes" your malware but doesn't know that LOTS of companies drivers extract to C:\Temp and then cleans up after their done?

And WHY would you put something you are apparently are hot to keep into a folder called Temp anyways?

Creative may make bad drivers, but you were just ASKING to get your pron deleted!
posted by : shoult, 28 March 2008

C:\temp\ oh my god...

nothing new there, this TEMP-folder was used since DOS-times to store TEMPORARY files, and sometimes, completely retarded programmers still use this folder for their installations and deinstallations.
and to make things easy, sometimes they just tell the OS to completely delete this folder after deinstallations, since they think it was their installation routine to create this folder in the first place.
you have 2 files left (I hope it's good stuff) since you interrupted the deletion process via your hard reset shortly before it could finish the good lord's work.
the lesson?

a) the creative programmers are complete and utter idiots, nothing new there
b) avoid using the C:\temp\ folder at all costs, especially if it's supposed to hold your dear pr0nz collection.
posted by : hannes, 30 December 2007

"temp" means temporary

You should have been more careful. The "temp" directory is just that... temporary. Don't ever save anything you want to keep in there.
posted by : kah00na, 28 March 2008

c:\Temp, eh?

You do know, power user that you are, that many utilities consider it their sacred duty to delete left-over temporary files, right? ;-)

My guess is that Creative's post-installation cleanup routine was just a bit less selective than it could have been. Maybe the programmer was a bit behind schedule. Maybe she thought she was doing you a favour. Who knows...? In any case, it's certainly not recommended procedure to leave data you want in a temp directory.

But it happens, sometime. Here's a funny little story to make you feel a bit better (BTW, feel free to edit, Ed):

A colleague was preparing to handle a misbehaving Windows installation in the usual way ("Nuke it from orbit. It's the only way to be sure"). So he diligently copied all the user's data from C: to D: under Windows, so as not to lose LFNs and whatnot. Then he rebooted in DOS and "FORMAT C: /U". Except, of course, that the first partition on the HDD was NTFS and the second was FAT...! I mean, it would have been even funnier if I didn't have to spend so many hours recovering all the data.
posted by : RasEm Brsiq, 28 March 2008

Odd

Interesting location to store your pr0n. I'd have chosen a more logical place myself. My only suggestion is, that the Creative drivers extracted the files it required for your installation to the C:/temp directory. Once complete, it erased the contents. Otherwise, I've no idea.
posted by : Oinky, 28 March 2008

hahaah

where to start...ok firstly are u using xp or vista?

secondly this could have been the OS and rather than app behaviour...

if u are a "power user", why the f do u:

a, keep loads of stuff in c:\temp, pretty dumb

a "power user" would keep stuff in a hidden subdir somewhere more safe, and ideally hidden and also encrypted...

b, should be pretty easy to recover what was deleted using an array of tools that a power user would have to hand..

c, then re create situation to test what was happening exactly

d, etc...


e - funny mail tho :) were the new drivers any better in the end? :)





posted by : state the obvious, 28 March 2008

what if..

what if the drivers unpacked into c:\temp then tryed to clean itself up by deleting everything in there. including your stuff.
posted by : kevin, 28 March 2008

c:\temp? Well Duh!

As any long time DOS/Windows 'Power' user will know, c:\temp is just that, a temporary directory.

This directory will be prone to purges periodically. A program seeing a c:\temp may use and purge it when it's finished.

Move on, nothing here to see (Pun intended)
posted by : Doug Lytle, 28 March 2008

C:\Temp???

Well as a "power" user you had the power to keep your "data" outside of your system's temporary directory. I'm assuming that you had the power and will to change your TEMP environment variable to that very folder.

Seems like this driver wipes all temporary files (read: what's inside your current temporary folder) which is kind of a nice thing since most apps/drivers/etc don't - let alone the users (power or not). The ideal would be deleting only the things that it puts there, but, oh well, temp is temp.

So if you considered pornography a temporary thing, maybe now it's a great opportunity to move along, reboot your life, get out more and download something else (with both hands). But not before creating something like "C:\Downloads".

posted by : mycelo, 28 March 2008

power user?

So... c:\temp got cleaned.

Hint: the temp is for temporal, not for storing data.
posted by : umbrel, 30 December 2007

LOL

guess he knows what "temp" stands for now eh?
posted by : Scott, 30 December 2007

Well

As much as I can appreciate your power user status, and creative's inability to remove just their own install...I have to poke at you a little. Most power users would not store 50 gigs of data in a temp folder....
posted by : Kevin, 28 March 2008

temp means something

Likely the installer used the temp directory to unpack itself and then removed the temp files with a nice *.*

Why would you store anything in the temp folder you wanted? It's not a good hiding place for your pr0n anyway, as it's one of the best place to look for orphaned files. Just put it in my docs and keep your bweebs safe, or maybe use another partition even so that if you need a fresh os install all is safe.

That aside, creative is crappy about their drivers. I don't think they use a normal msi to install.

If you're really that broken up over your girl.jpg being lost to creative, look up the Asus Xonar card that just got EAX driver support.
posted by : Nth3nSum, 28 March 2008

Power user? not likely

Any power user would not be storing anything of any value in C:\temp. That's just pain stupid. Temp dirs ALWAYS have the potential to get wiped out at any time. That's the whole purpose of them.

A power user would be using truecrypt to hide their "sensitive bits", not some lame scheme hoping the no one will look there.
posted by : johndoe, 28 March 2008

Suggestion

Perhaps you shouldn't have been storing stuff in a directory called C:\temp in the first place? It's not *that* unconceivable that some installer out there is programmed to put its own temp files there by default and delete the whole thing afterwards.
posted by : jessie, 30 December 2007

haha

Moral of the story: don't store files in the temp directory (dumbass)
posted by : noname, 30 December 2007

redundancy

and this is why i keep a copy of my 184gb collection mirrored on my file server's raid5 array...
posted by : withheld, 28 March 2008

Hah

That's going to be a very pleasant surprise for countless people, if creative actually does what windows should do and finally empties the temp folder.
I've know people who had serious issues with disk space only to find that 30% of their space was being used up by leftover installer crap in the temp folder without them knowing,
Not to mention that some trojans and viruses can happily run from the temp folder for years.
(Excuse the slightly serious comment, I know it's meant as a humorous piece)
posted by : W.-, 30 December 2007

I know what...

The driver used the folder c:\temp\ to put it's shit. What you hit restart it then deletes everything there, falsely ass-uming all the files there were his, and not user or other software files.
posted by : compres, 28 March 2008

Power User my A88

Many software use c:\temp folder as a temporary folder and cleans it out afterwards. That folder and similar folders such as c:\windows\temp or user folder\local settings\temp folder.
Especially C:\TEMP comes from the good old DOS times. Remember C:\DOS\TEMP

I don't care about Creative. You may f&(? them as much as you like but don' call yourself a power user.
posted by : Joshua, 28 March 2008

Stickykeys

You may also notice that after installing those drivers, the keys start to ease up and become less sticky after a while.
posted by : Lee, 28 March 2008

the temp dillama

Well, I think the driver it self extract it's contents into c:\temp directory, and then after finishing the installation it will simply delete the directory, maybe those wmv files the driver couldn't delete so it kept them as usual you know...

btw, it's better to be p0rn free, it makes you more ( human ) :)

keep clicking, but not with p0rn ;)
posted by : Xajel, 28 March 2008

Poor bastard

Loose all that pr0n? POOR BASTARD? that's what you get from being legal and playing by the book.
posted by : mrMushroom, 28 March 2008

I have a feeling

"The drivers must have been religious zealots"

that the installer may be the culprit. Well yes using c:\temp\ to store your data may have helped

c:\temp\ has some history on the PC.

It would be interesting to know if the installer checked environment variables "tmp" and "temp"
posted by : Nobby Nobbs, 28 March 2008

When did the phrase "power user" start meaning "moron"?

You stored all your valuable pr0n in the C:\temp folder and you call yourself a power user?! What kind of tard are you?

"temp" is short for "temporary". "temporary" doesn't mean "I'll leave this crap here for years until I get off my duff and back it up to DVD," it means "A dozen utilities out there including Windoze itself may wipe this stuff out to free up space or just because the system has a brainfart."

Sounds like your system saw that it was strapped for space and decided to do something about it, and figured "only an idiot would leave *important* and *valuable* stuff in a folder called 'temp'."
posted by : Anonymous, 28 March 2008

temp folder?

I'd assume that the drivers were extracted to the default c:\temp during install, and that the installer was "nice" enough to *try* to clean up what it thought it created
posted by : anonymous, 28 March 2008

How dumb can you be...

Historically, c:\temp is a folder that contains files that could be deleted everytime a computer shuts down or boots up.

Obviously, some part of the OS or some software decided there was not enough room on the drive and cleaned out any temp folders it could find.

It would be safer to store the pr0n in the recycle bin.
posted by : GT, 28 March 2008

idiot

couldnt have picked a better dir then c:\temp?

like a power user wouldnt know where programs like to write [I]TEMP[/I] files to....

recap~
your a f***ing moron!
posted by : justin, 28 March 2008

Wrong place

Everyone knows that you should keep your p0rn collection in c:\recycler............ :)
posted by : Brian, 28 March 2008

store data in c:\temp

The Creative installer probably routinely wipes all data from the temporary folder post-install. Maybe it could have limited itself to removing IT'S temporary data but it removed the whole thing. The whole point of a temporary folder is to put files you can ditch without regret, whenever you need extra space.
In any case, I can assure you, anyone storing "important" data taking months to accumulate in the C:\temp is most definitly NOT a power user, just another joe-sixpack.
You can thank Creative for a lesson well learned and store your data in a sensible location.
posted by : Bob, 30 December 2007

Duh . . .

Then why keep it in the TEMP directory. You should know as an apparent "POWER USER" that its for TEMPORARY files. Obviously the drivers cleaned this out for you. Wasnt that nice.
posted by : Phil, 28 March 2008

oh....as a p.s.

as a postscript to my LOL comment about this "power user" finally learning what TEMP means...

Two things.

First, there is a weil known issue with thumbnail creation (fixed oodles of ages ago via windows update) relating to video files being difficult to impossible to delete. Been there done that, and most power users have encountered this. So this explains the mystery as to why his two wmv files mysteriously remain.

Secondly, the TEMP path. Sigh. Would any reasonable person even begin to store something they wanted to save in a vaguely permanent fashion in C:\TEMP? Perhaps only if they've suffered repeated blunt head trauma.

Mr. Power User, is Mr. Paranoid User. And a wee bit clueless? It is hard to say. Having downloaded the Creative driver package mentioned, it properly extracts it's contents to %TEMP% and conversely cleans up after itself too. But the default on an XP system is not C:\TEMP. Unless some power users has tweaked his environment variables and altered paths.

It's amazing you guys didn't make this crap up isn't it????? :)
posted by : Scott, 28 March 2008

temp

Perhaps your correspondent should ponder on the wisdom of using a commonly used temp directory for the collection of his imprOntant data. These directories can and will be emptied at will by windows and other software - if that directory is defined as the correct environmental variable. And in addition, poorly written software is liable to use a hardcoded c:/temp out of habit.

A power user? Pah, I bet he can't even code in assembly language.
posted by : Graeme, 28 March 2008

c:\temp is a temporary folder...

Who would store files that they wanted to keep in a temp directory? When you install a program, it might put temp files there for the specific reason that they are temporary and they do not need to be kept. C:\temp is a windows folder for stuff that doesn't need to be kept. If you were to preform a harddrive cleaning in windows, it would give you the option of cleaning out your temporary folders. I believe that this is one of the many folder that windows looks in for this.

I think 1 of 2 things happened. The first is that like you side the drivers cleaned your c:\temp directory to clear out the drivers that it used in the installation. Alternatively, when windows rebooted and didn't have enough hard drive space to work, it started preforming a drive clean to make room for itself. Too bad the files in c:\temp are things that can generally be deleted. In your case, I believe that this assumption still fits.

If you need that much porn, you are viewing it too much and should look at getting help for pornography addiction or depression.

Good day
posted by : jga, 28 March 2008

What???

What kind of loser has 50 gigs of Porn? And what kind of "power user" uses a directory called TEMP to store his "precious" data? That's just retarded. And if that stuff was so important why didn't he back it up? After all it was just about a dozen DVDs; I assume it had been on his HDD for a long time, I don't even wanna think he downloaded/ripped that porn in a couple of days; either way it seems to me this guy needs some serious "shrink" time...
posted by : Alessandro Martin, 28 March 2008

Temp is temp

perhaps it might not be the best idea to save data you actually want to keep in a 'temp' folder on a windows machine ...
posted by : [none], 30 December 2007

Temp means temporary

Storing stuff in c:\temp is like storing important documents in the recycle bin. A "power user" should know that.

Besides, its not like there's a short supply of porn out there. Really, how often do you go back and look at the old saved porn? I'd probably have twice that amount of free space if something deleted mine.
posted by : Anon, 28 March 2008

Creative's New Drivers

Some installation programs create a "temp" folder on the main drive and extracts it's files there. When the installation is complete it removes the contents of that folder. I've noticed that before so now I usually use a folder called "Temp Folder" instead.
posted by : R, 28 March 2008

Duh

Who stores anything in c:\temp\ ??? That's just asking for trouble. Now if it deleted the files from say... c:\pr0nisgood\ you might have a case.

On a side note, is there any software that does claim responsibility for data loss in it's EULA?
posted by : Froyn, 30 December 2007

WTF?

Why would you possibly store anything that you want to keep in a folder called temp, no matter where its at? Especially in C:\temp ?!?! You were just asking for something bad to happen.

P.S. 50GB of p0rn?? That must be like 0.01% of all the p0rn getting sent through the tubes on those internets.
posted by : Dan, 28 March 2008

"I am able to erase spyware by hand"

Is that by one hand....?
posted by : Photoboy, 28 March 2008

Temp?

You store stuff in your temp folder? Do you also put your wallet in the trash can for safe keeping?
posted by : Tom, 28 March 2008

New install

If you install a gf the porn issue should be resolved.
the only bad thing is that they are complicated and never bring an instruction manual
posted by : Rey, 28 March 2008

SOP for Windows...

Okay, pal, here's the skinny...

When install programs are used, they will use the C:\temp\ location to push the files to the system before writing them out by whatever structure they are designed for. In short, Windows is always using this directory location for moving stuff around, so that sad fact is that if there's ever a problem with a file transfer, you're in danger of losing data in that location, as Windows will give the files the so-called "axe" to restore functionality to the system. Since these are drivers, this is the usual method, although programs themselves often get treated to an 'application data' folder created for them by their installer, so you get the temp files for them in there instead. In the future, just as you had mentioned, ya gotta make a backup, or at least throw the files in a protected location. Just anywhere but left in the temp folder. Once the drive gets that full, it gets dicey, as you're well aware. I had to re-partition my drive recently for a similar purpose (w/dual boot xp & vista no less, ouch!) Ya never know, maybe there's still a shadow copy of the files out there (not too sure how likely that is, given that it'll perma-delete if space is that low, hence your description...). Do a file and folder search for olk maybe, and cross yer fingers, and don't be surprised if the search takes a loooong time ^_^
posted by : Kylarin, 30 December 2007

Undelete Software...

Try this. http://www.runtime.org/products.htm it's worked wonder for me.
posted by : Jusy me, 29 March 2008

adventurous people..

Well, I would not blame creative so fast. Could have been vista itself..
I would not dare to be running vista with so low disk space..
posted by : joss21, 28 March 2008

Sorry for you great lose

My thoughts are that because the C:\temp is a temp folder the installer for the drivers could have used it for it's temp files and instead of just deleting it's files it deleted everything in the folder, or nearly everything as why your system "crashed" was it erasing all the files and you interrupted the process before it finished with the last two files.

But again you have my grievance on your loss.
posted by : Attila, 28 March 2008

Temp = temporary

As allI I can say that if you lost anythiny in your "temp" directory it is ONLY your fault.
Nothing of any importance belongs there, and I find it strange that you were able to keep anything there for such a long time. I usually flush out my temp directory about once a week, to get rid of what windows doesn't erase.
posted by : etabeta, 30 December 2007

Well...

The temp folder is, after all, you know... temporary. It's not a good idea to keep things in there. If windows is low on disk space it could clean that out.

I'm sure it wouldn't have happened if saved somewhere else. "power user" my arse.
posted by : B, 30 December 2007

Temp folder

Well DOH !!! that is what you get for using temp folder for anything other then temporary stuff. C:\temp is cleaned after the install and it is not just Creative drivers that do that.
posted by : Blip, 29 March 2008

I love power users.

Power Users + valuable data saved in window's temp = power n00b.
posted by : scorp76, 29 March 2008

Wow

I guess if you were looking for sympathy in the matter you will not get any from me. Personally, I think you should just get a girlfriend instead of relying on your junk covered computer monitor for your own personal satisfaction.

I can honestly say you made my overall opinion of this site go down a notch. There is looking at stuff like that occasionally and then there is you flaunting your loss on a site that generates a fair amount of traffic.

You really are a class act, and a very sick person! Seek help! Sexaholics anonymous. This site isnt helping you any.
posted by : Barrett, 29 March 2008

It is a sign, brother!

Hi, I'm Hal and I am a strong Creationist. I believe our Lord works in many mysterious ways, and has blessed these Creative drivers in the name of this wonderous universe He has Created. Thus, your computer has also been blessed and miraculously purged of those unholy videos!

If I were you, instead of complaining, I would immediately put the whole "Divinely Digital" computer for sale on Ebay for at least $50,000 USD. Some of my fellow zealots in the Bible belt will be sure to take it off your hands, blessing your bank account in the process. God will most certainly speak to us though this machine and tell us of His will. Bless you, brother! Always keep two hands on the keyboard, and you will not be led astray!
posted by : Hal E. Lueya, 30 December 2007

...

What the writer of this letter should learn is NOT to save data that you DON'T want to loose on C:\Temp, next time just use C:\PrOn instead ;)
posted by : M, 29 March 2008

too late to be sorry

I´m really sorry for your loss. I see it was very dear to you. But come on, how you let your treasures like that, unprotected? What if your HD fail? Or worse, if your wife/girlfriend find it and delete it? :-)
Well, good luck rebilding your archive. And always backup!
posted by : Curious, 29 March 2008

c:\temp ???

who in their right mind save contents on temp knowing the purpose of the said folder???

%systemdrive%\temp
%tmp%
%temp%

are all temporary locations of files. not only creative does delete all contents of a %temp% folder but even other applications.

get over it!
posted by : Charlie, 30 December 2007

power user?

how could u say that u r power user.
a power user never stores his data in temp folder..lol
posted by : na, 29 March 2008

I may have the reason

when you install drivers or software, some companies simply create a c:\temp folder to store everything there to load during installation then after installation is done it'll simply delete the contents of the directory. Yes, that can be considered lazy programming but it is a sadly prevalent practice. I always store my "temp" in a more unconventionally named folder like "unclassified" or "temporary downloads" etc etc.
Take that experience to heart and next time get a backup right away instead of "i''ll just get to that sometime."
posted by : Nkid, 29 March 2008

regardless...

why was the stuff in c:\temp ? is that not slightly unusual? i personally make use of the my docs folder...but i digress...
posted by : mitch, 29 March 2008

1GB freespace on a 160GB?

Sounds like you were playing with fire anyways with that little of free space on your Hard Disk. One should never go below 10% free on a Windows Drive sire.

Sorry you lost all your beloved pRon though
posted by : PbD, 29 March 2008

Chump

You put it in a directory called "temp". That means that it was in a location that could be used by anything else and then removed. If you were smart you would have put it in a really safe location like C:\myporn

If you were a true "power user", you would not have made such a noob mistake. You have been pwned.

-50DKP for not knowing that the fuck to do.

Please, just use pr0n and don't breed.
posted by : Isajerk, 30 December 2007

Power User?

Pretty dumb place to put your files.
posted by : oma, 29 March 2008

Par for the course.

Creative wouldnt know decent drivers if they kicked them in the head repetedly. Theres a driver modder named daniel_k who has practicaly done Creatives job for them the past few months, and now in an open response to him on their forums, they've taken to MPAA style tactics to get him to stop releasing WORKING versions of THEIR drivers. If anyone wants to read all about it:
http://forums.creative.com/creativelabs/board/message?board.id=soundblaster&thread.id=116332
posted by : former.creative.owner, 30 December 2007

Par for the course.

Creative wouldnt know decent drivers if they kicked them in the head repetedly. Theres a driver modder named daniel_k who has practicaly done Creatives job for them the past few months, and now in an open response to him on their forums, they've taken to MPAA style tactics to get him to stop releasing WORKING versions of THEIR drivers. If anyone wants to read all about it:
http://forums.creative.com/creativelabs/board/message?board.id=soundblaster&thread.id=116332
posted by : former.creative.owner, 30 December 2007

That is truly awesome

*no other comment*
posted by : Ben Kaster, 30 December 2007

I had the same issue brother

I feel your pain. This darn drivers, hot only erased my porn, they also drunk my beer and smoked my gandja. Good thing i am a boy, else this drives would leave me with nothing to play with ... But at least i have learned my lesson, not to install such products and keep my beer away from c:\ temp.
posted by : Dan, 29 March 2008

*temporary*

It seems that a "power user" should know not to intentionally store anything in a folder that is intended for temporary data. It's called "temp" for a reason. Also, what kind of power user uses a Microsoft operating systems?
posted by : Nathaniel, 30 December 2007

The Genetics Of Greed & Fear

One can witness and be balanced about the death & destruction surrounding one’s space but some how, Creative’s virulency always penetrates. It must be their genetics and that can only mean that they are part of Big D, that smelly horny beastie. And here are some facts about the genetics of the Chinese.

The northern Chinese are arty-farties who like to emphasise their “R” as if it’s an achievemnt of mankind. All because the consonant “R” is missing in the chinese vocabulary [and a J Woss - just spit is out man]. So, when it comes to speaking “English”, northerners, especially the “fashionable” Shanghai-ese, gravitates to the Yankee version, more so when it offers them the opportunity to “venom” out the Irish-drawl “R”. Yes, these are achievers indeed but not when you hear Diana Elizabeth Wong [whose realisation of “Christianity” is poodles, rainbowed poodles and …. ‘tis the day to be kind-ish] mix of Sino-Anglo-Yanko Irish. Even the governmental propagandist greyness is following suit and Elvis Ignatius Chan are two-a-penny within their ranks. One reason why Chairman Mao is refusing to take his rebirth.

When it comes to The Southerners, only the Cantonese can cook and the foulness capability of the dialect is beyond Olympian proportions [and crapola Chinese take-aways/take-outs are not necessarily Cantonese but usually beansprouting DIY imaginations of other dialectical wanderers]. When it comes to munay/lollies, The Hokkien [or Fujianese] “am eets” and this is where Creative comes in. Hokkiens are “The Chinese Jews” [with respect to true Jewish people]. They can make money from even an ant and when it comes to the language of money, only greed & fear counts. Nothing else. Customers? Dumb trusting fools you mean. As we all know too well, the other side of greed is fear – of exposure – which is where the idea of “secrecy” comes in. And guess what is the motto of Fear/Greed? It is, “On a need to know basis”.

The overwhelming dialectical in Singapore is … Hokkien. “M’Lud, I rest my case”.
posted by : Stumpy, 30 December 2007

a power user?

putting stuff you want to keep in c:\temp? a power user? give me a break.
posted by : snotty, 29 March 2008

:(

Ouch... Oh well, just get some more. ^_^
posted by : CrackerMeal, 29 March 2008

"temp"??

So you had all these files in a directory called "temp"? Which the Creative installation probably used as the name of its temporary working directory? So when it cleaned itself up after the installation, it deleted all your files as well?

What did you expect?

AT adds: I never thought of that.
posted by : Lawrence D'Oliveiro, 29 March 2008

Erm, temp directory!

I know it sounds crazy, but maybe you shouldn't store files in a temp directory. Anything being deleted there is fair game: it's expected to be clutter.
posted by : Steve, 29 March 2008

Power User?

Maybe it's just me, but usually a power user wouldn't keep 50g of "valuable" data in a folder called "temp". :)

That's just inviting trouble...
posted by : Dave, 29 March 2008

temp folder

Who in their right mind keeps anything important in a temp folder. You know it's bound to get cleaned after some badly written install program.
posted by : Jeunas, 30 December 2007

:-D

"I had to manually hard-reset the computer."
"I am able to erase spyware by hand..."
"50 gigs of pr0n in the c:\temp\ directory"

Yes, i'm understand. You are able to make things "manually".
posted by : Vagabundo, 29 March 2008

Temp means temporary

Lots of software developers expect that only temporary files will reside in the temp directory. You weren't very bright putting anything of lasting value there.
posted by : Kevin, 29 March 2008

C:\temp is a bad place...

Your Creative driver, as many other apps, use the system default C:\temp as a working directory to unpack and install stuff on your system. Creative setup last command must simply have been DELETE C:\TEMP\*.* when it was done.

Dude, never put something ''important'' in a ''temp'' directory like that, especially on the C drive, it's suicidal... As a matter of fact, never put any data whatsoever in C:. Always create a second D: partition to shield your data from any rogue software that don’t play nice with your C:. So if a catastrophic event occur with your C (Virus and such), so bad in fact that you actually lost access to the boot partition, you just reformat and re-install windows without ever worrying about any of your data sitting on D.
posted by : Ramon Zarat, 30 December 2007

fun

:DDD
posted by : nama, 29 March 2008

This brought back memories...

I can't confirm or deny this... all I can say for certain is that the Fatal1ty drivers didn't clear my Temp directory (also c:\Temp) so I dunno what happened there...

This story did, however, remind me of Half-life and what it did to my system. I had an 8gb HDD at the time, nearly full (500mb free) with an install of the original Half-life - version 1.0.0.4. Since I had no intentions of ever using them, I decided to uninstall the Sierra tools that came along for the ride (later to become Steam). 500mb free, after all, isn't a great amount.

It took a long time. A VERY long time. But I figured it was just Sierra being themselves and it was as poorly designed as the installer was in the first place. Boy was I surprised, though, when I found that it'd not only removed what I'd asked, but also some 6gb of other stuff I had on my drive under both C:\Program Files (where the utilities were) and C:\Games (where I had Half-life installed). Remaining directories (those that weren't completely removed, including the directory itself) were left half-empty, hundreds of hours of saved games lost, with no real pattern or reason as to why it might have happened.

Sierra's response when I e-mailed them to complain? "Please update to v1.0.0.5 before attempting to uninstall." Evidently, they knew they'd released software which had such potential side-effects, and even had to patch it up to such a low standard (one would assume they started with 1.0.0.0).

I've never purchased a Sierra title since.
posted by : Jon, 29 March 2008

You're a power user?

...why'd you put your porn in a well-known temporary directory? LMAO! It's like giving a toddler a big red button all the while saying "Don't press it."

Funny story. No sympathy. LOL
posted by : Travis, 29 March 2008

too bad

the temp directory in the windows folder is definitely NOt the best place to save your files pal.... it is one of the first folders to empty when you are running low in disk space, just as you were....
posted by : Fcob, 29 March 2008

creative ate your porn

i dont know, if im a poweruser,maybe.
but i wouldnt give my treasury into the temp directory. and if i would do, and this happend to me, i wouldnt write it in the inquirer and be emphatic about, what a damn good poweruser i am.
posted by : lissil, 29 March 2008

Temp Directory...duh!

C:\Temp = Temporary directory, as a power user you should know to NOT use that folder as a storage place.

Common Sense eludes some people, and then blame drivers for actually clearing out junk, of course it shouldn't have done that, but with an impatient Hard-Reset, who's to know if it was the drivers, windows or a combination of both.
posted by : TheDon, 31 December 2007

Mad at yourself???

Are you kidding me.....

It's always been fair game by operating systems, installation programs and driver installations to delete any and/or everything in c:\temp and c:\windows\temp. Most installation programs do this so they get rid of the junk (or DATA in your case) before they start copying over their files into the folder. Why on earth would you keep something important to you in those <DIRs>. It's kinda like putting your wallet in the trash can on the street and not expecting it to get picked up. I just revoked your POWER USER status.
posted by : Jay, 29 March 2008

poweruser?

hmm, i must say that i have my doubts about the poweruser status he gives himself.

Really, since when do you put all your beloved porn in the /temp directory. Even your regular code18 kind of person will be able to trenslate temp as temporary......

I must say that he got what he deserved. Ok, creative kinda screwed too as it shouldnt have cleared the folder but still, getting /temp cleared was an accident that was bound to happen sooner or later.
posted by : anonymous, 29 March 2008

tsk tsk !

I guess the Anti-P0rn fairy has attacked yet again !! Shame on you :P~
posted by : Jace, 29 March 2008

temp no good

Sorry about your porn- I feel your pain.
However I would never have left files as important as porn in a directory called c:\temp (temp is for temporary, you know, and your porn deserves a better place).
Although it is very bad for the Creative software to delete whatever stuff it pleases, even in c:\temp, I think you were a bit careless...
posted by : Vince, 29 March 2008

The clue is in the directory name

Dear mister sticky fingers, there's a reason why it's called temp! If you keep your files there then you've got no right to complain
posted by : Gordon, 29 March 2008

De-linked.

Your file table got pwnd noob.
posted by : Greg, 31 December 2007

LOL

What a tool.

Q: Who saves their data to a temp folder anyways?

A: An ignorant user.
posted by : ostar, 29 March 2008

What can one expect?

I just wonder whether the person who wrote this article a) wrote it tongue-in-cheek b), is totally clueless about the use of the c:\temp\ directory, and c) saves their e-mails in the Deleted folder....
posted by : Christian Nilson, 31 December 2007

...

"OMG?!?" and "WTF?!" come to mind when reading this article.
I mean, what kind of idiot stores 50gigs of anything they wanna keep in c:\temp????
The bloke has broken one of the biggest unwritten rule when working with windows, (if you can help it) NEVER STORE ANY DATA ON C:\

May I suggest that the guy in question do a system restore (assuming he has had the forsight to leave it turned on) to get his pr0n back and burn it off on shiny dvd-r media
If on the other hand, he has turned system restore off...all we can do is laugh!
posted by : Niki Mistry, 29 March 2008

you hide porn from your gf/wife, someone?

becauze before reading this article.. i've never heard of someone who keeps his/her porn in the C drive temp folder!!
posted by : Voyeurist, 29 March 2008

Chump

What kind of git leaves 50 GB of important files in C:\temp ?
posted by : It, 29 March 2008
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